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Postby krfoote » Wed May 19, 2010 6:54 pm

I need a little help for my upcoming trip, I have a Cannon D70 with a Ikelite housing that i have been pleased with so far, however i do not have a strobe to go with it.

This saturday i am diving a WWII battleship @ 130 Ft and i want to get some good pictures but i am not sure at that depth if it will be worth taking the camera or not.
I am somewhat familiar with camera settings and MIGHT be able to get some with just ambient light but i dont want to drag it around if i am just going to come back with Black undistinguishable photos.

does anyone out there have any suggestions or ideas for the right settings? or should i just make sure to get copies from my dive buddies camera?
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Postby scottg » Wed May 19, 2010 11:13 pm

hey KrFoote, which camera do you have? I don't think Canon makes a D70, I couldn't find any reference to it on google. Also, do you own a compact camera or a dSLR? Does the ikelite housing allow you to use the internal flash?

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Postby krfoote » Wed May 19, 2010 11:23 pm

AHHH sorry, Its a NIkon D70, My wife shoots with canon and i had a brain fart.
It is a DSLR, but i havent tried to use the built in flash yet, Its an Ikelite housing so i kind of doubt it but i am going to play with it tonight and see if it will work.
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Postby scottg » Wed May 19, 2010 11:41 pm

Nikon D70 - got it. you can't use the internal flash.

which lens will you use? do you have a true wide-angle lens?

if you have a wide-angle lens, clear water and a sunny day you might be able to get some ambient light shots. especially if you shoot in high ISO, don't underexpose and convert to black and white. take a look at our wreck photography page. where is the wreck?

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Postby krfoote » Wed May 19, 2010 11:49 pm

Its just off Okinawa japan, the Uss Emmons sunk in a kamikaze attack in 1945.

I have a 15-35 MM lens, i would like to get a fisheye but i really want to get more practice first.

Thanks for the advice!! I will play with my camera a little to get familiar with the settings i will need and give it a try.
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Postby tswinner » Thu May 20, 2010 6:59 am

You can definitely pull off shots without a strobe. Take a look at this page as well as the wreck page Scott sent you. http://www.uwphotographyguide.com/ambie ... hotography

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Postby scottg » Thu May 20, 2010 10:19 am

krfoote wrote:Its just off Okinawa japan, the Uss Emmons sunk in a kamikaze attack in 1945.

I have a 15-35 MM lens, i would like to get a fisheye but i really want to get more practice first.

Thanks for the advice!! I will play with my camera a little to get familiar with the settings i will need and give it a try.


your welcome. practice taking some photos in very dimly lit rooms.

I would really get a fisheye lens. The 15-35mm without a strobe will be of limited use, imho, except for silhouettes of marine life. I would just get it and not worry about more practice with the 15-35mm. But others may have a different point of view.

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Postby CompuDude » Thu May 20, 2010 4:15 pm

As long as you can brace the camera sufficiently to take long-exposure shots (wedge yourself in tight, or brace the camera against some rocks, or use a tripod), you can do quite nicely with ambient light. If you're hand-holding the camera in any sort of surge or other water movement, however, there's no way to avoid blurry shots when ambient light is extremely limited.
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Postby smb2 » Thu May 20, 2010 8:26 pm

A Nikon lens 15-35mm? There is a 17-35mm 2.8...
Anyway with the D70 Dx sensor that is a 25mm lens at its widest. You will have to be pretty far away to get a full view silhouette, adding to the low light issues.
I would vote for a fisheye. The Tokina 10-17mm or Nikon 10.5mm, both around $650, I think.
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Postby krfoote » Sat May 22, 2010 12:48 am

SMB2,
You are correct- I was mistaken (Again), anyway i am glad to report that the dive went well and i did manage to get some decent pictures.
None of them are professional quality, its quite obvious i need more practice but i did get some good experience and ill get better pictures next time. Thanks for the help everyone and if you are interested i will post a few of the better pictures in the photography section if anyone wants to take a look.
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